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Written by Imran Imtiaz Shah Yacob   
Monday, 07 January 2008

“Allah” may mean “God” everywhere else, but not in Malaysia

 

malay-allah The Malaysian cabinet’s decision late last week to reinstitute the cancellation of a Roman Catholic newspaper’s publishing license for using the word “Allah” interchangeably with “God” in its Malay-language section has little to do with theology and a lot to do with Malay fears that Christians may be secretly converting members of the Islamic faith.

“They believe that Christians in Malaysia, as in much of the rest of the Asian world, are on an evangelical mission,” said a Kuala Lumpur-based Muslim with access to the thinking of government leaders. “There are Asian missionaries attempting to convert actively in Malaysia, and confusing Muslims, so the word ‘Allah’ has been banned. The churches have been trying to use Bahasa Malaysia (the Malay language) and attribute the one God in Islam as Allah in Christianity, so as to pull more Malays into the church.”

Sensitive politicians suspect the Catholic church of spearheading the campaign to use the word “Allah” interchangeably with “God” in the belief that the verbal sleight-of-hand could make Malay Muslims more receptive to Christianity.

The Kuala Lumpur-based Catholic Herald, which prints reports in English, Bahasa, Tamil and Chinese, was first notified that it would no longer be allowed to use the word “Allah” on October 18 and November 1.  But after informing the publication of the decision, a representative from the Internal Security Ministry delivered a letter dated December 28 with the permit to print without restrictions, the publication’s editor, Father Lawrence Andrew, told the media in Kuala Lumpur.

Non-Muslims have also been barred by the order from using the words solat (ritual prayer), baitullah (the house of God) and kaabah (the holiest shrine in Islam), according to Abdullah Mohd Zin, minister in the prime minister’s department, who told reporters that Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi told him to clarify the matter so the public would not be confused.

Despite the fact that according to the CIA World Factbook Muslims make up some 60.9 percent of Malaysia’s population of 27 million, the country’s Muslims – and particularly the leadership of the United Malays National Organisation, the leading ethnic party in the ruling Barisan Nasional coalition ‑ remain hugely insecure about the Christians in their midst. Christians make up a relatively small 9.12 percent of the population, many of those concentrated in the north Borneo states of Sarawak and Sabah, where a protestant church is suing Malaysian authorities for banning the import from Indonesia of six titles for Sunday school classes using the word "Allah” for “God.”

Proselytizing Muslims in Malaysia can and has guaranteed a quick air ticket out of the country for foreign missionaries. Showing a Christian Bible to Malays, who are required by syariah law to be Muslim, has been known to stir near-riots. There are rumors, most likely exaggerated or untrue, of entire Christian churches for Muslims in the southern state of Johor, which abuts the majority Chinese (and largely Christian) Republic of Singapore.

Undeniably, there are Malay Christians, although most keep their religious affiliation well hidden. For instance, the Malaysian website Alternatif-net in 2006 interviewed a Malay Christian woman identified only as Kamariah, who said she and a 34-year-old friend named Natasha were the only ethnic Malays in the international church they visit.

“Many Malay Christians hide themselves and meet secretly,” she told the website. “The only way to get legally married is to marry a Malay Christian who is also still on paper a Muslim. But then our children will also be Muslims on paper, and their children, and the circle is never broken. But if we want to change our identification cards, it won’t happen without problems. The syariah court can decide to put me in prison.”

Concerns have grown on both sides. Christian apprehensions about Muslim dominance also have grown over the last two years. Two or three celebrated court cases have raised fears among Chinese and Indian Christians that the social contract ‑ and constitution ‑ that has allowed religious tolerance since independence in 1957 is being frayed. 

Last week the Chinese Christian husband of a dead Malaysian woman sought to stop Islamic authorities from giving her a Muslim funeral amid a dispute over whether she converted to Islam before her death.  The court ultimately granted a temporary injunction to prevent the Federal Territory Islamic Council from claiming the body, which lies in a Kuala Lumpur hospital morgue, until January 18, when the case is due to be heard in a civil court.  The dead woman’s husband claims she was a Christian at the time of her death.  In a 2005 case, an ethnic Indian was buried as a Muslim over the objections of his Hindu wife after a syariah court ruled he had converted to Islam.

Also, in late December the Federal Court threw out a bid by a 28-year-old Indian woman who took her estranged husband to court in an effort to prevent him from converting the couple’s 2-year-old son to Islam. While the court ruled against the woman on a technicality, one of the justices said Malaysia’s syariah, or religious court, would have primacy in the case.

In May, the high court ruled that a 43-year-old Kuala Lumpur woman who renamed herself Lina Joy had in effect lost a 12-year fight to change her religion on her identity card from Islam. She had become a Christian more than a decade earlier; however, the court ruled that the syariah courts had jurisdiction over whether Joy’s religious status would remain Muslim, which was tantamount to denying her claim.

Only once in history have Malaysia’s syariah courts ruled to allow anyone to change religious identity and that case involved an 89-year old woman named Nyonya Tahir who converted to Buddhism in 1936. Her decision was accepted 69 years later in 2006, after she was dead.

As to the Catholic Herald controversy, most religious scholars outside Malaysia agree that Muslims worship a single supreme being that the Arabic language denotes as Allah and that English calls God. The word Allah derives from the singular nature of the monotheistic deity. In the Arab world Allah has always been used by Christians and Jews to denote the one God which the religions share. The same is true in the Farsi language.  In Indonesia Christians use “Allah” to denote the supreme being in the Indonesian version of the Malay language.  For Muslims, Jesus was a prophet of Islam, and the Koran represents the continuation of God's revelation begun in the Old Testament.

 

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sanskrit name
written by arakara , March 13, 2009
i think history has proven that in ancient times especially in most Asia names has correlation with Sanskrit., such as Malay, Malaya, Kedah, Langkhasuka, Langhkawi, afghanistan, baluchistan, arabia, Sri, Rajha, Perdana Mentri, Mentri, Agong, Duta, Durbar, Islamiyah, Kaabahliswaram , Bandar Sri Baghwan and many more etc.
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written by tabok , September 10, 2008
Heh, the christians want to use Allah refer as the God? let them! but remember the first Jesus commandment? 'O people of Israel! There is no God but Allah?' Wow! very good!
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secret agendas of the christian missionaries over the muslims
written by This must make to immediate ha , May 04, 2008
I'm 100% agreed. The christian missionaries have the agenda. No one can deny. Look at youtube videos about korean missionary extremists in Afghanistan, and others for examples. In like the state of war, they take the advantage of the poor muslims condition to turn them to christians which is the most barbaric act on this day, desperate and extreme by targeting most on young afghans children. Finally, they got the balance of extreme act ended up being killed bcoz of tresspassing the norm of life, and have no respects of the human beliefs and cultures in Afghanistan. Now the extremists make false claims on the word of Allah to be legally used in malaysia is another desperate attempt to embedded the minds of muslims community in malaysia to convert them to christians. Just look at Indonesia how many muslims have converted to christians, and they have seen the seeds. Now they want to do the same in malaysia, disintegrate the people and the harmony life the malaysian people share at the moment. Very pathetic acts! What a shame man.
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to use muslims gods name to create fuss and confuse the people
written by why? , April 26, 2008
muslims people and scholars knew the strategy of this 'GRAND EVILS ON EARTH" who try every efforts to corrupt the minds of the muslims especially the young muslims generations, the fragile and those easily be prey of the evils of christians missionaries. Soon to disguised and further confuse t he mind of muslims they would diligently add Muhammad's name, the prayers etc etc etc in their publications to further confuse the muslims and peolple in Malaysia. It also known that the group of EVILs has took the pain to translate the Koran and corrupted the contents. Not only that it was also heard, the blasphemous work of this evils distributed freely FOC among the people in Malaysia. The countless evil works of this EVIls try disintegrate and cheat the pure faith of the muslims and disharmonize life and faith in Malaysia MUST be critically look at by the authority and infact by all people regardless of faiths who loves the peace and harmony stay intact in malaysia...This EVILS must be surrendered to jail or "throw away in the sea" and prohibits them circulating fakes and destroying other peoples beliefs. Their act of EVILS cannot be condoned. So the government action is right to protect other people beliefs and who can see the dangerous of propagating such crimes to maintain and contain the flares of EVILS from this criminal so called missionaries......I support the government.
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why want use other god\'s name?
written by ..... , April 08, 2008
hey dude stick to yur own gods name, why must use others. where is yur authenticity? not homogeneous? and why? r yurs fakes? very fishy...

all muslims use theirs from east to west globe and from north pole to south.... and now you want to use theirs. common give a break
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written by Monkey Business , February 09, 2008
IAMLEGEND is the real monkey. I have never seen any sticker saying "Jesus Heals...every one are invited EXCEPT Mohammedans"

He should blame the Malaysian government which insists that all Christian adverts must carry the words " For Non-Muslims Only" and in Malaysia Muslims are not called Mohammedans. Such poor respect for the truth and the English language is typical of the ignorant.

Ignorance is bliss is spot on. If only more Muslims know the history of their religion they will be shocked. 99% of them are intellectual and spiritual slaves because they follow blindly. Put the religion under the microscope and you see the lies they spin. Claims of religious texts not changed are a myth. No wonder they wanted to kill Salman Rushdie because the Satanic Verses were true - they existed in the original Koran and were taken out.

Mohammed had 9 wives and was a horny sort of bloke with a bloodthirsty predisposition and Muslims spin a legend about him and turn him into some kind of holy holy character which he wasn't and that he did not sin etc.

They say Jesus Christ will return and then marry and then die..my goodness this is like Hans Andersen's fables. They say follow the Koran and Hadith so they make the hadith equal to God's word.

Decent people can be found in all religions and the Malays in Malaysia are nice people but some of them turn into intolerant fanatics because of religion. Some of them become like zombies and imitate the Arabs and even keep beards and dress like Arabs when the Malay culture is very gentle and Malays are pleasant and peaceful people.

I have worked in Malaysia which has decent people but some nasty bigots and the government there is playing the religious card for its own selfish political purposes. Some of the ministers are muslims and engage in drinking and illicit sex and are seen praying piously on tv.

The reason they run amok ( the British used to say that) is because of the religious influence. When out of ideas they resort to violence and irrational behaviour like what IAM LEGEND displays. They have a hatred for Westerners because they have been brainwashed to hate them.

They are taught that non-Muslims go to hell but they will go to Paradise and be fed wine and grapes by young virgins. It shows how shallow their understanding is of spiritual matters and they still think Heaven is a place for the men to be screwing around.

Why do you think it is the only religion that allows men to have 4 wives and change them at will and also have prostitutes as temporary wives? The men can just say, "I divorce you" 3 times and that's it. They say "Oh we marry 4 women or more than one so that we can help them in financial stress"

Ha ha. The only snag is all the poor women are pretty young things! When did we see them marrying old and needy women or widows? These blokes are hypocrites par excellence, and even the Thai prostitutes don't like to service the Arabs in Bangkok.

Did anyone ask who the young virgins will be in their idea of Paradise? Will women also have young men to service them sexually and serve them wine? Crazy. You can't drink alcohol here but you can drink it in Paradise where there will be "rivers of wine."

Criticise my religion by all means but let me critque yours too...if every follower of religions behave like the muslims there will be total chaos. Fortunately non-muslims are more civilized and dont have to resort to violence. Any fool will fight and now Al Qaeda uses kids to do their dirty work. All this in Allah's name? I'm glad my Allah is not like that.
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written by EYFF , January 14, 2008
In its effort to politicize Allah and other Arabic words to keep its Malay populace political loyalty captive, the Malaysian Govt may find itself further at odd with the OIC and the Arab League.

Within the OIC, the Malaysian Govt had always been perceived to be “progressive” to the point of being deviant as can be seen in their interpretation of:-

1.Their Islamic Banking System, where profits are actually interest, but redefined by normally partnering a borrower and a lender and writing down the interest directly as profit! In Malaysia where the interest rate is regulated it is therefore a way to bypass the regulation and charge the borrower a higher interested than that set by the Central Bank!

2.Stating that Malaysia is an Islamic State while Arabic is not its an official/national language!

3.Friday public prays, where imams would direct prays for the health and good fortune of some VIPs, party, etc. which is forbidden in Islam.

4.Islam Hahdari
(Surah 47:4 says: Fa'idhā Laqītumu Al-Ladhīna Kafarū Fađarba Ar-Riqābi Ĥattaá 'Idhā 'Athkhantumūhum Fashuddū Al-Wathāqa Fa'immā Mannāan Ba`du Wa 'Immā Fidā'an Ĥattaá Tađa`a Al-Ĥarbu 'Awzārahā Dhālika Wa Law Yashā'u Allāhu Lāntaşara Minhum Wa Lakin Liyabluwa Ba`đakum Biba`đin Wa Al-Ladhīna Qutilū Fī Sabīli Allāhi Falan Yuđilla 'A`mālahum

5.Now redefining Allah in direct contradiction to the Koran and the Prophet.
(Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah, not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; OUR ALLAH AND YOUR ALLAH IS ONE !

If Malaysia persists in going down its present path it may see its membership in the OIC downgraded to that of a deviant Islamic country and may see its pilgrimage’s quota limited drastically by the Saudis!

Malaysia you are not alone! Malaysia you are not the centre of the Islamic Universe!

So step softly please Malaysia under UMNO administration!
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MALAYSIANS AND ALLAH
written by DIASPORA , January 12, 2008
The Sikhs, of Punjab, India now clamour that the word ALLAH appears in their Holy Scriptures. Sikhism is a by product of the ancient Vedas and the Upanishads and related Vedic scriptures.

It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word 'ALLAH' itself is SANSKRIT. In the sanskriot language, it is said, that ALLAH; AKKA;AMBA are synonyms. They signify a Goddess or Mother. The term Allah forma part of sanskrit chants invoking Goddess DURGA, also known as BAVANI, CHANDI and MAHISHASURMAN.

Those better versed on this matter may be able to give better comment.

However GOD, by any name, is the same GOD and as the saying goes 'A Rose by any other Name would smell as sweet.'

May GOD give Man the wisdom to know HIM better than squabble over a sound.
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Taking the piss out of IMLEGEND
written by IAMMOREFAMOUS , January 10, 2008
IAMLEGEND,
You become a bore repeating the same thing! Come out with something new & original. I am waiting to laugh @ your crappy joke. Better be good & funny this time! Or I'll send monkey-KJ to you! See, not so bad, is it? Learn how to insult! Or be shipped out to the garbage bin and incinerated!

Not particular offended by you but just don't like your unfunny joke! Be funnier next time, you hear?
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written by Robert , January 09, 2008
It shows how imature and insecure the UMNO politicians are and they don't event trust the faith of the Muslims that ridiculous laws are created to exclude them from the healing meetings. It is up to the Muslims to demand for their democratic rights and not be bullied and exploited for Political gains. All things in the world are Gods creation and monkeys are no exception.
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written by Philip , January 09, 2008
They had to do that because of the law. Just like the VCDs and DVDs of "The Passion of the Christ", there's a special sticker on it saying, "not suitable for muslim". And this is just an example, there are many more VCDs/DVDs on the market having the same label. Are not the missionaries have the heart for those who yet to know Christ? Why would they stop anyone from coming if they want to come? The door of Heaven opens to all anyway. Please find out the truth first before comment on anything.
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Ignorance is bliss - Pt. 2
written by EYFF , January 08, 2008
Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah, not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one;

Although the Koran stated that Allah is the one God worshiped by Jews and Christians beside Muslims HOWEVER Muslims DO NOT pray to the same God (Yahweh) as Christians and Jews! Yahweh is transliterated from the Hebrew YHVH.
It was Muhammad that tried to confuse the Jews and Christians by stating that their God was the same as his Allah.

Before Muhammad the Arabs had 365 gods - one for each day of the year. Muhammad picked Allah (Al-Iahi), who was the Arab moon god, their war god, and their sword god.

WHO IS ALLAH?

Allah has pagan beginnings

The Black Meteor inside the Kaba
aka: Ka'bah aka: kabah

The stone has been attacked many times and is now composed of several pieces and fragments, bound together by a silver ligature.

Pre-Islamic history tells us that many Arabian tribes were stone worshippers. This is also mentioned in Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661. The Old Testament also talks about Mideast pagan groups that worshipped stones.

When Muhammad was born in Mecca, each Arab tribe in Mecca had their own deity. There was a large black meteor found in the desert which many Arabs believed was sent to them by astral deities. This rock was placed in the southeast corner of the cube-shaped structure in Mecca. The arabs knew this rock as the Ka'ba, which means stone. The black rock's diameter is about 12 inches. It is reddish black in color, and has red and yellow particles. During this time before Islam this stone was part of the shrine to worship of a chief male god (among over 350 other gods) who was known as Hubal. The black meteor stone was said to symbolize a nature god known as al-Hajar al-Aswad. Hubal was an oracular deity whose statue -- in human form and made of red carneol -- stood in the Ka'ba until Muhammad destroyed it. The Kaba is about 50 feet high, and the walls are about 40 feet long. The facade contains the door, which starts at 7 feet off the ground, and faces N.E.. To enter the Kaba, a ladder must be used. Also built in the eastern corner, is another stone called "lucky". This stone is only touched, not kissed. Pagans called out the names of their pagan gods as they circled the Kaba the same as Muslims do today, calling out Allah's name. Early Meccan Pagans also ran between the nearby hills. Muhammad authorized Muslims to do that in the Quran, and Muhammad probably ran between the hills himself. So, even before Muhammad pagans were worshipping this black stone in the Kaba. Are we surprised that although Muhammad proclaimed only one God, he continued to participate in idol worship at this pagan shrine (Kaba); and Muslims still do idol worship there today? The black stone of Ka'aba is nothing but a holdover within Islam, from pre-Islamic paganism.
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Ignorance is bliss - Pt. 2
written by EYFF , January 08, 2008
There is evidence that black stones were commonly worshipped in the Arab world. In 190 A.D. Clement of Alexandria mentioned that "the Arabs worship stone". He was alluding to the black stone of Dusares at Petra. In the 2nd century, Maximus Tyrius wrote; "The Arabians pay homage to I know not what god, which they represent by a quadrangular stone". Maximus was speaking of the Kaaba (Ka'ba) that contains the Black Stone.

The Qurash (aka: Quraish) tribe which Muhammad belonged to was in charge of idol worship at the Ka'ba Shrine. The chief god of Muhammad's tribe was one of the three sister goddesses called al-Uzza, the youngest of the three daughters of the pre-Islamic Allah and the patron goddess of Mecca. Her name means "the mighty one". The other two were named "al-Lat and "al-Manat". It was only by chance that a fortune teller counseled Muhammad's grandfather against sacrificing Muhammad's father to this al-Uzza pagan diety. The head of these pagan, animalistic deities was "Al-llah". It is believed that "al-llah" in Muhammad's time before Islam referred to a vague moon god and that Muhammad believed that al-Uzza was a daughter of this "al-llah".

The Qurash tribe's Allah corresponded to the god Bel, which is another name of the Assyrio-Babylonian gods En-lil and Marduk. It has the same meaning as Baal. The Arabic today translates the word Allah as "God". Muhammad's father's name was Abd Allāh ibn ‘Abd al-Mullalib. "Abd-Allah" means slave of Allah. When Muhammad says there is only one god - Allah - now you have an idea what his background / thinking was; and who this Allah actually is.

Therefore what the Malaysian Govt. is doing (unwittingly) is actually correcting the “errors” propagated by Muhammad.
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written by Christoph Heger , January 07, 2008
Dear Sir, dear Madam,

Any ban against Christians using the Arabic "Allâh" for what English speaking people address by "God" is extremely ridiculous in view of the etymology of "allâh" - because the latter is the Arabicization of the Syriac (=Christian Aramaic") "alâhâ" (Western Syriac) or "alôhô" (Eastern Syriac). Christians have always used it, even long before any Islam appeared in history.

For the whole matter see Christoph Luxenberg, The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran. A Contribution to the
Decoding of the Language of the Koran, Berlin 2007.
A portion of the book you can read here:

http://books.google.de/books?id=227GhaeKYl4C&printsec=frontcover#PPA1...

or

http://www.verlag-hans-schiler.de/index.php?title=Christoph Luxenberg The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran&art_no=M0088

Kind regards,
Christoph Heger
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written by IAMLEGEND , January 07, 2008
Bhahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaa......
These missionary monkey's come to malaysia on a faith healing crusade and put up ads in the major news papers like "Jesus Heals .. every one are invited EXCEPT Mohammedans."
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